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Post by Rich© on Jan 13, 2012 11:34:09 GMT -5
I put the 3rd link pin in the bottom hole on the tractor to hold the 3rd link. Here's the pic. Still ain't working. The tip is still on the ground of the center shank and the 3 point is all the way up. Now what is the answer? I don't understand what the hell I'm doing wrong. It still looks to me like I need arm extensions to make that ripper go higher in the air. IHC built the damn hitch so it sets to close to the tractor it looks like in my opinion. I'm open to some suggestions short of remodeling the hitch on the ripper with the fireaxe and welder. At this point though.. I'm starting to wonder. It was also a real bitch to hook up. I had to stand on the shanks to push it down into the quick hitch cradles to latch the pins. Now what can I do? Attachments:
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Jan 13, 2012 12:14:44 GMT -5
can you shorten up your lift linkage any more? an inch or two makes a lot of difference, then lenghten your top link a little?
Red on red should work. If the answer is no then looks like you add steel under each bottom hitch pin area and get another lower hitch point.
The top link controls the pitch and how high the back raises, looks to be too high.
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Post by Angus in NCMO® on Jan 13, 2012 13:02:24 GMT -5
I've been following this problem since you first posted it ... haven't had any answers so haven't posted ... 'til now. Along with others, the suggestion of making sure the adjustment in the lift arms is shortened as much as possible for the most lift is first thing on the list. ... then ... were you able to hook up before with the top link in the top hole on the tractor and the drawbar not swung over out of the way? Have you tried it since the drawbar is moved over? Lifting a bit more level would help tilt that front point forward for a little more clearance. Be careful lengthening the top link too far ... I've seen top links destroyed if there's not enough threads 'engaged' for holding the loads you're potentially going to be placing on it. A hydraulic top link might be the easiest solution for this, but they don't give them away.
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Post by Brother John on Jan 13, 2012 13:17:28 GMT -5
Shorten the lift arm length? Mine needed to be longer to get more lift on the front side of my strip tiller.
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Post by barker4650 on Jan 13, 2012 14:18:51 GMT -5
Out of suggestions now, I guess you need a green tractor to make it work. LOL sorry couldn't resist, hope you get it firgured out. You wnat me to post on the other board? I know you are so well liked over there with the asshats.
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Post by wheatfarmer on Jan 13, 2012 16:45:12 GMT -5
Rich, why does your quick hitch have so much lean into the tractor? When I have my quick hitch on (JD tractors) I have very little lean in towards the tractor. I have almost a continous straight up and down quick hitch regardless of implement being in or out of the ground. Is it possible the JD one has been modified to set level? It appears to me the top link is just to short, so lengthening the top link will level the unit. I would guess not more than 1 to 1 1/2 inches longer.
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Post by Rich© on Jan 13, 2012 17:05:31 GMT -5
I moved the 3rd link back into the top hole of the tractor and lengthened out the turnbuckle. I realize that the back end is a lil low now but as you can see, even when I do get done leveling the ripper with the turnbuckle it is plainly not lifting the ripper high enough. I still don't know what the hell the deal is why this sonofabitch will not clear the ground worth a damn. These are 42" tires on the magnum. This thing should have lots of daylight under the shanks. I'm am convinced now that IHC made a sub par 3 point hitch on this ripper that isn't low enough on the frame. I'm afraid at this point I am going to have to start welding steel on and make a new set of lift pin arms on it to gain any clearance of the ground. In other words... I'm so damn chapped right now I'm about ready to go park it in the trees and pursue a different project. Attachments:
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Post by wheatfarmer on Jan 13, 2012 17:14:05 GMT -5
Yep, that 3pt on the ripper is just wrong. Did you ever look at the JD and see how the 3 pt was mounted compared to the frame? Just looked online and the JD ripper has the armlinkage points about 3 inches lower than the IH you have.
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Post by Rich© on Jan 13, 2012 17:28:12 GMT -5
I was trying to remember and thats what kept coming to mind that deeres dropped down as they came out to give more clearance.
Well.... I'm off to shop for a wire welder. I'm not going to tie into this job with that old Forney stick. That.... or just see if Cliffs wants to tie into the damn thing. Probably be time and money ahead to let him do it.
Things like this is why people buy Deere and scoffed at ihc.
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Post by peelergtfb on Jan 13, 2012 18:46:02 GMT -5
If it has electronic control for the 3 point there might be a upper limit set that needs to be changed.
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Post by Rich© on Jan 13, 2012 20:27:20 GMT -5
If it has electronic control for the 3 point there might be a upper limit set that needs to be changed. When the arms attached to the rockshaft are damn neart up against the rear fuel tank, I'm fairly confident it's as high up as its going to go.
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Post by kwestfarms on Jan 13, 2012 21:52:52 GMT -5
Various implements can have their quirks !!! I cannot use the quick hitch on the 2800 JD variable plow , cannot get enough weight on the tractor front , evidently shifts weight too far back. On the other hand , I have a DMI 10 shank 3pt chisel plow that I have to use with the quick hitch to be able to lift high enough and to level out when in the ground.Both behind a 1456 IH , maybe thats my problem!! 2800 6bt for sale or trade....that would take of problem. John
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Post by Boo-yah on Jan 13, 2012 23:52:37 GMT -5
I think its your quick hitch. The top link attaches way high on that q-hitch. Bet if you hook it up without the q-hitch it lifts flatter
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Post by kwestfarms on Jan 14, 2012 13:10:27 GMT -5
Boo-yah : Thats what I was trying to say.....try hooking to the ripper directly , no q-hitch. John
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Post by Rich© on Jan 14, 2012 13:15:15 GMT -5
I looked it over again this morning and was going to try that route but the more I looked the more I am convinced it is not going to change a thing. When fully raised.... the pins in the quick hitch that hold it to the 3 point are level and parallel with the ground when you eyeball those pins to the quick hitch cradle where the implement pins lay in. That means it wouldn't gain any height.
I put it against the fence row this morning. Monday I'm either going to go visit the local fabricator and see what his time frame is for work he's got ahead of me and if it's a far cry out then I am seriously anticipating a brand new wire welder and am either going to fabricate a new hitch on it or an adapter plate that goes between the ripper hitch and the quick hitch. I been wanting a new wire welder anyways..... this is a good reason for that investment.
In either case... the way it stands now.... I am done working and stressing on it anymore. The next step is going to be modifications.
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