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Post by 3020 on Jan 14, 2012 16:32:52 GMT -5
Any way to get hold of an owners manual?
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Post by Rich© on Jan 14, 2012 19:07:32 GMT -5
I was informed by two "experts" on facebook that I did "not need" an owners manual. All that was needed to know was to hook on, put in ground, drive forward. With infinite wisdom shared like that...... how could I possibly go wrong???  |
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Post by JoshuaGA on Jan 14, 2012 19:54:44 GMT -5
I was informed by two "experts" on facebook that I did "not need" an owners manual. All that was needed to know was to hook on, put in ground, drive forward. With infinite wisdom shared like that...... how could I possibly go wrong??? Just need a $20,000 caddy ;D. I've had wisdom like that before. |
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Post by 3020 on Jan 14, 2012 20:44:40 GMT -5
Think I would look in an owners manual before I started welding on the hitch.
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Post by Rich© on Jan 14, 2012 20:57:06 GMT -5
Think I would look in an owners manual before I started welding on the hitch. In all seriousness, what for? There is no other adjustment. This implement came out before the magnum series. If anything was to be discovered it might be in the magnum owners manual but there is nothing there that covers what is already seen and known. 1: The implement hitch is rigid. There is no adjustment 2: The magnums lift arms are going to the top of thier travel range. 3: The lift arms are adjusted as tight together as can be done. There is no more adjustment to be made. There is nothing left to read, ponder, discuss, or hope for. The fact of the matter remains that the implement hitch is simply not built right to allow for the proper clearance between the ground and the shanks when the 3 point is at the very top of it's travel range. It is time to do modifications to make this implement work with the tractor that will be working it. |
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Post by JoshuaGA on Jan 14, 2012 20:58:55 GMT -5
Think I would look in an owners manual before I started welding on the hitch. Looking at the pictures, I don't think the owners manual will make much difference. I have had different tractors with supposedly the same hitches have one not clear the ground with a chisel plow and the next one 2 foot in the air. It could possibly be something like having shorter tires on it or a linkage designed lower on the frame or I have had the adjustment arms on a 3 point screw out and drop an implement a few inches, had that on a sprayer last year, and I fussed with it for a while before I discovered that. In any case, by the pictures, most rippers here have the lower pins set about level or slightly below the shear bolts on the ripper shanks. I am sure it worked in the past, but given the number of holes in the headstock, it was using alot of adjustment. |
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Post by 3020 on Jan 14, 2012 21:38:33 GMT -5
Think I would look in an owners manual before I started welding on the hitch. In all seriousness, what for? There is no other adjustment. This implement came out before the magnum series. If anything was to be discovered it might be in the magnum owners manual but there is nothing there that covers what is already seen and known. 1: The implement hitch is rigid. There is no adjustment 2: The magnums lift arms are going to the top of thier travel range. 3: The lift arms are adjusted as tight together as can be done. There is no more adjustment to be made. There is nothing left to read, ponder, discuss, or hope for. The fact of the matter remains that the implement hitch is simply not built right to allow for the proper clearance between the ground and the shanks when the 3 point is at the very top of it's travel range. It is time to do modifications to make this implement work with the tractor that will be working it. Maybe there are different hitch attachments for different tractors. Hard to believe this would fit on the 88s or 86s and not the Magnum. What is the number of the ripper? Have to original shanks been replaced with something different? |
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Post by Rich© on Jan 14, 2012 21:57:58 GMT -5
Original shanks. Model 10 Ihc ripper.
It's been discussed and the tenative agreeance amongst the discussion group elsewhere is that 86 and 88 series had higher lift 3 points then the magnums do. The magnum is a Case design and the Ih's lifted higher.
No matter.... It's getting modified so it works on this tractor.
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Post by 3020 on Jan 15, 2012 12:29:18 GMT -5
Lift arm on a 1586 all the way up, 42 inches to the center of the hole. Didn't mess with the turn buckle but I know it is within 3-4 turns of being all the way short.
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Post by Rich© on Jan 15, 2012 15:45:53 GMT -5
A guy measured his two days ago. Magnums are 38".
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Post by barker4650 on Jan 18, 2012 15:10:27 GMT -5
Here is one one tractor house with a modified hitch it looks like. Might give you a few more inches. Attachments:
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Post by Rich© on Jan 18, 2012 16:23:23 GMT -5
And right there is my plans on how it's gonna be done. Thank You Barker. I appreciate that picture. I was having a helluva time finding anything and had a lil different idea in my mind but I like this one better. It looks hell for stout and I have no doubts it will handle anything he hooks that too. I appreciate you posting this picture very much. Thank You.  |
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Post by barker4650 on Jan 18, 2012 23:20:46 GMT -5
Did a little research and hope it helps with you problem since you tried all the other stuff I suggested and it didn't help. Sorry for all the extra work.
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Post by Rich© on Jan 19, 2012 0:32:36 GMT -5
Did a little research and hope it helps with you problem since you tried all the other stuff I suggested and it didn't help. Sorry for all the extra work. Naw.. That wasn't extra work.. That was discovery work... And we discovered, with that work, that the way it's set up, It won't work. lol More times than not in Agriculture based work... It seems alot of the times to me that it takes longer to setup then it takes to do the actual job. I was just very happy that you responded to my questions with the issue and gave some thought provoking suggestions to try. Again, Thank You. |
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Post by rdh on Jan 19, 2012 11:21:34 GMT -5
Rich; I think if you have the ripper setting on the ground the lift arms should be paralel to the ground.
It looks like the lift arms are to high so it can't lift it high enough. So I would not have a problem working in the ripper to make it work. Just my thougt.
Ronnie
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