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Post by MarlandS on Mar 17, 2013 13:52:31 GMT -5
What are the cut offs for dockage you Wheat growers see when there's a bug problem in stored wheat ? Where's the limit before rejection ?
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Post by kwestfarms on Mar 17, 2013 15:44:14 GMT -5
Sorry Marland .......not a wheat farmer......so can't help on dockage question. Just a comment......Is this one of the down sides of owning your own storage bins......maintaining the crop while in storage ? John
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Post by Mark (EC,IN) on Mar 17, 2013 15:56:46 GMT -5
Sorry Marland .......not a wheat farmer......so can't help on dockage question. Just a comment......Is this one of the down sides of owning your own storage bins......maintaining the crop while in storage ? John Sorry not Marland, but yes it can be a problem. They will hit me hard on a load of corn if it has "livestock" in it when I deliver. I've never had a problem as I spray the bins every year before filling. Used to always use Malathion, but the last few years the dog food plant I deliver to wanted us to switch to a product called Tempo.
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Post by MarlandS on Mar 17, 2013 16:14:21 GMT -5
It's more of a problem when an elevator stores wheat long term without taking the necessary steps . Then, they want me to fix it by running it through the vac , then they bitch about the cost .
So, I was trying to determine if there were "population" thresh holds with different degrees of discount . Similar to seed beans and damage so i can show him the potential profit of running it through the vac and paying my fees as opposed to just using their own unloading equipment and taking the dock .
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Post by wheatfarmer on Mar 17, 2013 21:36:35 GMT -5
When elevators or farmers with bins deliver to a terminal there is a level at which the dockage causes wheat to be labeled as feed grain. I am on the board of a coop but have never had this matter discussed. Bunge, Cargill, Scouler, ADM or any terminal should be able to give you info for your area.
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Post by acfarmer on Mar 18, 2013 8:05:25 GMT -5
It varies here with the elevator. One that I haul to wont dock if the bugs are dead. Dockage also varies on how much grain they have on hand to blend with it.
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Post by 420 on Mar 18, 2013 11:36:54 GMT -5
Dead weevil 2 per 10 Grams 0 3 to 5 per 10 grams -0.05 6 to 15 per 10 grams -0.25 16 to 30 per 10 grams -0.45 over 30 per 10 grams -0.65
Live weevil subject to rejection
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Post by MarlandS on Mar 18, 2013 12:43:20 GMT -5
Thanks 420 and everyone else that responded .
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Post by Topshot on Mar 20, 2013 9:18:12 GMT -5
Here Marland, I believe they don't dock for dead "bugs" in grain except if there are enough to be docked as inert matter, which I doubt that would ever happen. If there are live "bugs" I believe they will either dock it some, if they have more similar grain to treat, or reject it if you're the only one.
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Post by Mark (EC,IN) on Mar 20, 2013 10:57:57 GMT -5
Here Marland, I believe they don't dock for dead "bugs" in grain except if there are enough to be docked as inert matter, which I doubt that would ever happen. If there are live "bugs" I believe they will either dock it some, if they have more similar grain to treat, or reject it if you're the only one. Yep, it has to be alive. I did always kid Larry G. that he'd give mouth to mouth to a weevil if it would save him a buck though
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Post by MarlandS on Mar 20, 2013 12:10:07 GMT -5
Most of the elevators around here will reject a load of corn if it's got live weevils . But that's about all I know about them, never heard of a discount for dead ones so I had to ask .
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Post by 420 on Mar 20, 2013 12:39:08 GMT -5
Most terminals have discount sheets on their websites,that one was from The Andersons. There is a big differance in delivery points and thresholds for weevil,wheat can be docked for dead weevil,we had a load rejected because one of our idiot loaders left a dead pigeon on top of a load,cause he was too lazy to get it. Also,dead or alive,if we find them,we will check the heck out of you for a long time.
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