Chore tractors

[kcm]

I asked a while back about McCormicks and Kubotas, anyone got a 5250 CaseIH, and are they good? Our township bought a 5130 for a mower tractor, it was great. In addition to feeding I would hopefully use the tractor to pull an 8312 disc mower, when I trade it I want to go with a 15', would a 110 PTO hp tractor handle a 15" hydraswing disc moco? The New Holland specs say yes, but I think it would be a load.

[John SD]

Maxxums seem to be good tractors although I never had or run one myself. Being nimble, economical chore tractors is their strong suit.

If anything, I've heard the cooling system is borderline. Constant load on a hot day with AC going full blast would put it to the test. Also I would think 15' of disc mower might be a bit much for 110 HP. IMO, a Magnum would probably be better.

FWIW, I have a 16' sickle machine on 105 HP which is a pretty good match. Don't need any more HP. Don't want any less.

[Rich©]

KCM

We run 3 maxxums between the 3 farms.

5140, 5240, and a 5250.

All Good machines. As for them pulling your moco.. I don't know. Ours are for choring mostly. Each one has a loader on it. We pull balers, 20' of no-till drill, and a few other odds and ends.

[ses]

I'm assuming a MoCo is a disc mower? To put it in perspective, CNH has an 18 ft disc head on the front of a 275 horsepower swather tractor. so....I'd have to say there are two chances of a 105 horse tractor pulling a 15 footer. No way and no how.

[mnredfarmer]

I pull a 14' moco swingtongue with a 5140 with no problem. With the disc mower and increase in speed that comes with them, I don't know. A 5250 will have 15-20 more HP than my 5140 so it might work.

[Angus in NCMO®]

there's only one way any 110 hp tractor of any color is goning to pull a 15' disc moco ... and that's SLOW. It takes several ponies and lot more fuel to pull them compared to sickle machines, even with SHARP blades ... but the increased productivity offsets the extras for most users.

If you're gonna slow down, might as well stay with a sickle machine, and eliminate the extra hard use from your tractor.

[Hobbyfarmer]

Mice chewed up the phone wires in a pedestal 2 miles up the road and I have been out of Internet and land line for two days...

Long story short if you have a 15 ft disc mower conditioner, 110 will only pull it around the farmstead and down the road. If it is a sickle machine with a reel it will do just fine.

I have a 1341 NH and if you are in the hills (read as semi mountainous) the 190 hp ones I pull mine with are not any too much when turning on the hills. The disc mowers are twice as heavy as sickle machines. also they take the power when in heavy crops.

[ses]

Also, keep in mind it takes one and a half mechanical horsepower to generate one horsepower with hydraulics and the Mo-Cos are hydraulic drive.

I don't know how much hay you put up but man self propelled swathers are nice and are getting pretty affordable.
I think you could get more done with a like 4890 JD 16 ft. sickle swather than a 15 ft. moco behind a tractor.

[kwestfarms]

ses : Mo-Co's ( a JD word ) are sickle cut machines...... disk machines are PTO run. Farm I feed for cuts with 15' NH disc unit in front of tractor and pulls another 15 ' NH behind.....tractor is 2180 Buhler cranked up to 220+ horse. Disc cutters as has been mentioned take a lot more power to operate , especially at 8 to 10 mph. Our fields are pretty flat on the avg. , some 5% to8% slopes , usually long slopes . The only ones using sickle machines around here are small operators like myself making less than 100 acres of hay per year . John

[ses]

Well....he asked about "moco disc" machine! The freakin' retread! lol. Anyways the self propelled are hydraulic drive. Don't know about the pull type although any New Holland pull type sickle machine I ran was hydraulic drive except for the old bidges.

[Roy@ranch]

Well on the moco, I have pulled a 15' disc with a 105 hp 7410 jd over many many acres. It would pull it pretty good, with the exception of real rank grass that would make over 3 ton. Granted a bigger tractor is a plus but 90% of the time I ran as fast as I cared to run.

Roy

[kcm]

Alright meadow muffins,the correct term is "disc mower conditioner". I felt certain since I mentioned I had an 8312 disc mower conditioner if I said I wanted to go to a 15' moco you would assume it would be disc, my bad for not wanting to take the time to say, "15 foot disc mower conditioning hay cutting unit".

I pulled the 8312 once with a JD 4240, it pulled the poop out of the tractor, so yes, I concur, the 110 horse tractor probably is not big enough for a 15 footer, but I thought I might find wisdom to the contrary here, a guy can always hope.

[3020]

Ses can be a little slow, he needs proper terminology or he gets mixed up. Take for instance beaver, too the rest of us it means wildlife, to Ses it means.....well.....not wildlife. Then you have the double beaver......we won't even go there.

[ses]

I don't know 3020, I have known some beaver to be termed "wildlife". LMAO!

[bcreech]

Feb 6, 2012 22:25:31 GMT -5 kcm said:

Alright meadow muffins,the correct term is "disc mower conditioner". I felt certain since I mentioned I had an 8312 disc mower conditioner if I said I wanted to go to a 15' moco you would assume it would be disc, my bad for not wanting to take the time to say, "15 foot disc mower conditioning hay cutting unit".

I pulled the 8312 once with a JD 4240, it pulled the poop out of the tractor, so yes, I concur, the 110 horse tractor probably is not big enough for a 15 footer, but I thought I might find wisdom to the contrary here, a guy can always hope.

I pull a 1431 NH which has a 13'6" cut we always used the 4640 and it will make it grunt a little in heavy stuff
was busy with harvest this fall and had the 4640 tied up so I hooked the mower to my NH TS110A and was cutting Milo stalks it pulled the guts out of it
I am planning on pulling the mower with an 8225R this yr when we aren't using it to plant