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Post by jabber1 on Jan 21, 2012 7:41:38 GMT -5
The majority in this area would use the products that you listed for most of their N, P, and K.
Our land grant university- Univ of Illinois- most typically suggests that a pound of actual N, P, or K is a pound no matter what the source.
They do suggest that we need to consider or try sulfur but results have been variable with many locations not responsive.
The N is annhydrous ammonia= AA= 82-0-0= NH3 is held more tightly by the soil for more days after application and less subject to loss for those days. NH3 applied to the soil ends up being NH4+ as it attaches to free hydrogen in the soil. As a positive charged ion it is held by the negative charge of the soil until is converts to nitrate N. There are all sorts of disadvantages to using NH3= 82-0-0 also.
Caution- soils vary widely in natural properties, manure history, and past applications by farm operators. For recommendations that have some research to back them look to your local land grant universities for some help. They don't have all of the answers but they do have to have some data to back up their positions. Local crop consultants and soil labs that you trust can also provide some guidance for your soils but they often are short data to back up their suggestions or recommendations. As one presenter at a fertilizer seminar stated, "in God we trust. For all others- show us your data."
Good question. I will watch to see what others have to say.
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Post by cityguy on Jan 21, 2012 8:37:27 GMT -5
Frytown , i think the best way is to just keep up on your sil tests , that should tell the story on your micro's , if your tests come back OK then why spend the money on the other stuff ? I'm just say'n what benefit would you get from putting on something you don't need ? Itwas like years ago the fert people said we needed to add mag. to our last pass of roundup to prevent the yellow flash we would sometimes get . Well the data said that IF your mag. levels were good , adding the extra mag. had NO effect on the beans , most of the yellow flash was comeing from , say overlap and was more how the beans would breck down the round up . as far as my fert . program 28% for N and the same for the rest like you and jabber 1 . Also I am switching to an independent , for soil testing .
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Post by kwestfarms on Jan 21, 2012 12:34:41 GMT -5
Hey cityguy : Down there in the Keys.....I'm guessing about 140 day corn? Cobs so big , only 3 fit in a coaster wagon??? Just wondering !!!! 28% for N.... applyed with the sprayer or tool bar applicater Thought everyone down in corn country used AA . Are you using liquid starter Apply any amount of N at planting So many questions..... but then again , so much time! John
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Post by cityguy on Jan 21, 2012 13:21:59 GMT -5
Kwest we plant 120 day corn down here that way we can get three crops in , lol
10 gallon of 10-34-0 ----- 2 by 2 then 30 gallon of 28 at about knee high put on with the hagie tool bar then between waist and shoulder high come back in with the hagie and put on another 30 gallon . use to spray on 20 gallon with chemicals but it seemed like the residue would tie up the N for awhile . great to spray with but just couldn't seem to get good yields doing it that way . questions ? ask away , I'm just sitting here on the beach rubbing suntan lotion on all the babes! BTW only the good looking one's with a trophy rack ! LMAO
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Post by kwestfarms on Jan 21, 2012 17:06:12 GMT -5
cityguy : What !!!! No popup.........I thought all the big time corn farmers were doing that.....especially those planting into cooler ground.....as in notill situations !! Now don't be talking about that beach stuff ......still have 26 days of this unbearable cold to get threw before we climb on plane. BTW.......IS that your job because they view you as harmless? ?? LMAO !!! John
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Jan 21, 2012 18:32:32 GMT -5
"BTW only the good looking one's with a trophy rack !"
Is this Mrs Cityguy approved?
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Post by kwestfarms on Jan 21, 2012 19:49:29 GMT -5
OH NO Hobby : This puts a whole new slant on cityguys beach activitys.......... Please cityguy , say it ain't so......LMAO
AND I meant pop-up as in fertilizer......John
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Post by ilweedman on Jan 22, 2012 12:35:53 GMT -5
Problem here in the Midwest is finding them. We end up hauling them from Baltimore or your part of the world because the suppliers wont handle them.
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Post by ilweedman on Jan 27, 2012 20:55:13 GMT -5
Found a source today in Morris IL for 0-0-50-17s if your interested
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