Which Tractor?, Which Tile Plow?

[Cleavage]

OK, I bought a tile plow. I have at my disposal, a NH TJ380 4WD, and a NH T8040 FWA. The 380 is (duh) 380hp (not sure on weight) w/ 620's, no 3 pt. The 8040 is 305hp (not sure on weight) w/ 18.4's, front duals, a full rack of the larger weights up front, and a 3pt. I still have options on the plow (it won't be in till Sept). Should I pay the extra 7 grand for the pull type for the 380, or buy the 3pt plow and chance the lack of weight and traction on the 8040. I have a lot of clay soils, but I do have a neighbor who is an excavator and has offered to put mains in for me (the hardest part), if he comes when I want. I'm leaning towards the pull type to be safe, but have no experience with a plow. If I bought the 3pt I would usually have the 380 in the field on the dirt scoop to double-up, but would have to go through the aggrivation of doing so when maybe the 380 would pull a more expensive plow by itself. HELP!

[Cleavage]

Sorry, but I can't find an edit button. I should have mentioned that I just joined (as all have). My name is Jason, I farm 1200 acres and raise some feeders with my Dad around the Pana, Nokomis, Il area. We used to dairy, but due to a division of assetts between Dad and my uncle we no longer do, which is why I now have time to paruse these types of boards. No offense I am hooked myself (just ask my wife).

[Gambi80]

Welcome aboard! Love the name...lol. Can't contribute much to your question, BUT...to edit your post, use the 'modify' button on the upper right of your post.

[Cleavage]

Thanks

[acfarmer]

I would go with the bigger of the two. I would hate to buy that plow and then find out my tractor wont pull it.

[MoJeeper™]

On the tile plow, I think I would go with the pull type.. Atleast it would work on just about anything vs being tied to something that has to have a 3 point.

[dm479]

cleavage I would go with the pull type it will give you more options in you clay soils you will proll have to hook both tractors together to pull it it takes a lot of horse to pull it that deep in clay good luck -------------dave

[MarlandS]

Either way you'd probably have enough horsepower I think the issue will be weight .

My tile plow experience is limited to helping a contractor who uses an STX with a mounted Wayne's plow quite a bit and watching another contractor's Wolf tile plow . Neither of those guys have to worry about tire squat with a 3 pt or porpoising with a pull type .

With your choices in power units, I think I'd go with the pull type so you can use either tractor but I'd really want tandem axles on a walking beam .

Which system are you using for grade control ?

One more thing I'd point out , based on installation prices around here , should you go with the more expensive 3pt it would only take just 2 more maxi rolls of 4 inch tile to "pay" for it .

[Cleavage]

Marland, The pull type is the more expensive one, and I told the dealer the other day to make mine a pull type. there are advantages to both, but as most already stated on here it is better to go with more weight and hp, so pull type it will have to be. I was leaning that way already. For grade I am using Trimble Field level on RTK, Mainly because I already have the RTK setup and currently own the most expensive parts already. Thanks, Cleavage.

[clayknob]

My uncles' have a pull-type plow (can't remember brand), pull it with a TJ 450.......its usually all the tractor wants. Usually two pass, but have seen them run three passes with two tractors. I'm not that far from you, but are soils are probably tighter than yours too.