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Post by MarlandS on Oct 29, 2011 20:23:43 GMT -5
Looking at the above mentioned loader and was wondering what anyone knows about it if anything .
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Oct 29, 2011 20:29:06 GMT -5
Good medium duty loader easy on and off.
Real loaders say "Quickie" on them.
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Post by acfarmer on Oct 29, 2011 21:15:50 GMT -5
Pretty much what Hobby farmer said. Dont do alot of dirt shoving with the westendorf. They tend to bust frames since they dont bolt to the rear axle.
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Post by MarlandS on Oct 29, 2011 21:22:56 GMT -5
Back 20 odd years ago I ran a 2294 Case MFWD with a Westendorf TA 66 on a feedlot in western Iowa. it seemed pretty tough .
This one's main job will be lifting vacs for swapping out , moving snow and carrying parts and accessories when I have to take the tractor vac out .
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Post by acfarmer on Oct 29, 2011 21:43:19 GMT -5
You should get along with it fine then.
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Post by clayknob on Oct 29, 2011 21:46:31 GMT -5
Have a TA 28 on a 5240, best loader we've had. It has spent its life as a stump remover, and improptu bulldozer. The frame saddles are the weak link, and you'll end up having the local welding shop fixing the cylinder caps. We have and currently own other brands of loaders, but we still fight over who gets to use the Westendorf. Maybe our results are different because the 5240 is only a 90-95 hp tractor?
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Post by Angus in NCMO® on Oct 30, 2011 9:40:40 GMT -5
Still got one here for the 4020. Definately the easiest on/off loader I've ever been around. We put it on / take it off during haying season multiple times a week depending on whether the tractor is piling bales or raking.
Excellent for big bale handling or similar, which is the only thing our WL42 (new in 1988) has ever been used for. No welds on frame anywhere. Neighbor has one that is tweaked every direction and has welds all over it, from use for everything under the sun.
Cylinder design leaves a bit to be desired. Seems it doesn't take long after a new seal kit before internal seals are gone and loader or bucket cylinders don't hold and start to settle rather quickly.
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Post by JoshuaGA on Oct 30, 2011 11:22:54 GMT -5
Good medium duty loader easy on and off. Real loaders say "Quickie" on them. Real loaders don't go on tractors.
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Post by Rich© on Nov 3, 2011 2:04:33 GMT -5
Have a TA 28 on a 5240, best loader we've had. It has spent its life as a stump remover, and improptu bulldozer. The frame saddles are the weak link, and you'll end up having the local welding shop fixing the cylinder caps. We have and currently own other brands of loaders, but we still fight over who gets to use the Westendorf. Maybe our results are different because the 5240 is only a 90-95 hp tractor? Yep... +1 Clay. Bought the first maxxum on this farm brand new in 92 I believe. 5140 and put a westendorf on it. Still on there today. This tractor has over 10,000 hours on it now and while it wasn't all loader work.. and alot of that loader work was to load ground hay into a feedwagon.... Alot of it also has been moving bales, scooping manure, digging dirt, shale, sand, and chalk rock. As far as I'm concerned, Westendorf is the cadillac of loaders on the market. I own a Farmhand on my 5240 (which is 100 hp btw ;-) ) and lil brothers is a GB on his 5250. While all do the job.. We still like dads Westendorf the best. We all liked it so much... Including the Supreme Commander, that he bought another brand new one for his Brand new booteful Bleu Trakturd this past spring. Westendorf is my choice. Not only for the products they make, but for the customer service from the company. We had an issue with the mounts made for this new loader. The company was on top of the issue right away as soon as I got the pictures sent in to them so they could see what we were talking about. IMHO Marland... Your not going to go wrong with a Westendorf. Attachments:
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Nov 3, 2011 3:33:44 GMT -5
Get a Quicke with soft drive and you will scrap your other three brands you mentioned. I have a Westendork on one tractor and a Quicke on the other. Kind of like comparing a 8n Ford to the tractor in the pict. Especially the knuckle busting latches on my Westendorf tool carrier. Just one latch that even my wife can easily undo on the Quicke. (you can get a hyd option on the Quicke)
I have been to both Factories ...picked up my Westendorf at the factory and Was on a AGCO paid trip to Finland and Sweden and got a five hr tour of Quicke's two factories...just NO comparison.
The Westendorf is a add on unit that rattles and bangs on every bump, the Quicke is like the tractor was born with it. They have been selling over 20,000 of them a year for a very long time. The cylinder factory (they make their own, don't sell to anybody else and are the 4th largest cylinder mfg in Europe) was the most automated computerized, and impressive from raw slug to finished product small Factory I've seen.
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Post by dm479 on Nov 3, 2011 12:20:02 GMT -5
Quicke is the best Westendorf will get you by as the name says they are quick-----------dave
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Post by acfarmer on Nov 3, 2011 15:23:53 GMT -5
You had better luck than me Rich. They screwed up the mounts on my westendork and when I called them they wasnt all that helpfull. Said take them to a machine shop to fix them and pretty much didnt want to pay to have it fixed. I then complained and they offered me 75 dollars which I never got and wasnt enough for the work that was done. I was also told I could hook a joystick to my 7060 without tying up the remotes fairly easy. Lie. Never did hook that up. The loader did just like hobby said. Bang and clanged and didnt fit all that tight. You dont have any of that with the quicke and changing buckets on the quicke is just that quick unlike the westendork and the biggest drawback, westendorks loader frame doesnt bolt to the rear axle so its not near as strong and stable as the quicke. Im not going to say westendork is the worst loader out there but its definetly not the best nor there company . But these are just my experiances and results. Others may vary.
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Post by MarlandS on Nov 3, 2011 16:26:49 GMT -5
Thanks guys , now to see if I can get a deal made on this Westendorf before too long . The Westendorf should handle what I'm needing done , lifting 2800 pound vacs 2-3 times a year , shoving snow for maybe 10 hours a year and some small odds and ends stuff . it doesn't have the quick attach but unless the bucket won't go high enough to pick a vac off a semi , it won't be coming off .
I did look for Quicke on tractorhouse ,none within 250 miles and none with mounts for an 86 series IH .
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Post by Rich© on Nov 5, 2011 22:13:42 GMT -5
You had better luck than me Rich. They screwed up the mounts on my westendork and when I called them they wasnt all that helpfull. Said take them to a machine shop to fix them and pretty much didnt want to pay to have it fixed. I then complained and they offered me 75 dollars which I never got and wasnt enough for the work that was done. I was also told I could hook a joystick to my 7060 without tying up the remotes fairly easy. Lie. Never did hook that up. The loader did just like hobby said. Bang and clanged and didnt fit all that tight. You dont have any of that with the quicke and changing buckets on the quicke is just that quick unlike the westendork and the biggest drawback, westendorks loader frame doesnt bolt to the rear axle so its not near as strong and stable as the quicke. Im not going to say westendork is the worst loader out there but its definetly not the best nor there company . But these are just my experiances and results. Others may vary. If you want a frame to the back.. Go get an old GB or a Dozer. Loaders don't need a frame work to the rear end. If they do.... then you should look at a bender industrial special. If you two have banging clanging W loaders.... then try adjusting them. Like I said... Over 19 years now and 10,000 hours with ours and It don't clang and bang. I think you two either got something that wasn't truly representable of Westendorf of something is completely the hell wrong with your mounts. You want to see a clanging banging loader come try out my Farmhand... I like the loader but that thing is far from a tight fighting one on the mounts. Nothing that can't have a lil adjustment and help but theres no point in it. It fits tight enough, does the job, and I'm happy with it. As for the mounts not fitting Ack... and needing welding work... Why didnt' you just tell them to come get the s.o.b. and shove it up their ass and your done with it? I buy something new and it doesn't work right... I'm on the phone raising ten kinds of hell. I get something worked on and it falls apart I'm on the phone raising ten kinds of hell.... Especially if I get a run around. I don't put up with that bullshit. Why do you guys? Guy doesn't have to yell and hollar and cuss em out doing it but you can damn sure be stern and stand your ground and put thier ass on the spot and demand and explanation. I havn't had the poor experience you guys have. I'm not going to comment on a quickie... seen 1 loader of that breed in the country for a spell now and no complaints from who owns it but like marlands situation.. I don't know where we even have a dealer for them. Perhaps they are a cats meow loader but Its going to be hard to convince me otherwise of a Westendorf. I know what that loaders been through, what it's had to have done and how tough it truly is. If it been crap like you guys claim, I know damn well the supreme commander wouldn't of bought a second. You guys got pics to post? That might help show what your complaints are to me. The one I see "here"... I don't have the issue you do. I will readily admit one thing though... westendorf shoulda changed the quick attach for the grapple fork to the bucket.. now that design does suck.
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Post by acfarmer on Nov 6, 2011 9:14:22 GMT -5
Each to there own RIch. I dont know how many guys told me that the better loader is one that bolts to the rear axle. Ands more stability to it. I need to find my pic of my old westendork and what it did to my tractor. www2.quicke.nu/na/Pages/LocateYourImporter.eptNo need to get in a NAT pissing match about a loader. There is better things we can argue about. LOL
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