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Post by jd9600guru on Sept 21, 2011 12:16:19 GMT -5
I've heard yes and no. I thought it did. But after reading some discussion some think it doesn't. Your thoughts?
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Post by Dave-ECIA on Sept 21, 2011 12:38:11 GMT -5
Test weight has nothing to do with yield. It's only a measure of grain density.
We're paid on weight, they don't care how much volume you deliver to them.
Honestly, we shouldn't even talk about yield in bu/ac. It should be cwt/ac, but those old sacred cows die hard.
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Post by MoJeeper™ on Sept 21, 2011 16:31:02 GMT -5
I look at it, we sell x number of pounds divided by 56 for corn. Thats also how I figure yield.
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Post by MoJeeper™ on Sept 21, 2011 16:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by Gambi80 on Sept 21, 2011 18:45:45 GMT -5
Honestly, we shouldn't even talk about yield in bu/ac. It should be cwt/ac, but those old sacred cows die hard. I'll drink to that. |
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Post by jabber1 on Oct 16, 2011 6:02:25 GMT -5
Higher test weight is simply higher weight in the same area (volumn). Higher test weight corn might allow you to avoid a dock at the elevator and allow you to get more weight (bushels by weight) in the same space like your bins.
Yield monitors often have trouble measuring yield differences between corn hybrids with varying test weights and kernal sizes.
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Post by kwestfarms on Oct 16, 2011 9:44:54 GMT -5
Combine yield monitors should be outlawed in my opinion. Yields to me are scale wts. divided by 56 lbs. per bushel divided by acres harvested. Agree with jabber1 on test wt. , good test wt. helps avoid dock at the elevator... JMO..John
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Post by natty on Oct 16, 2011 20:18:24 GMT -5
But isn't it only under 55 that a dock takes place,and then only 1 cent per pound? My point is anything from 55 to 60+ is paid the same per bushel based on 56 lbs.Pioneer is king in high test weight and some people are more satisfied with that than their overall yeild.I actually had a seed customer tell me what he bought from me yeilded better than Pioneer but the test weight was lower .I didn't get a repeat order from him.Go figure.
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Post by olwhda on Oct 18, 2011 21:37:34 GMT -5
Higher test weight will get you a bigger overweight ticket if you always filler full evertime, as most farmers do.
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Post by mac on Nov 24, 2011 22:21:22 GMT -5
A bushel is a measure of volume. TW is how much that volume weighs. Higher TW usually means larger seed meaning it takes less seed to fill the volume of a bushel. So if you have 1000 kernels of 50 TW corn and a 1000 of 60 the 60 would more than likely be more bushels, so yes if you are measuring your yield in bu/ac it would.
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Post by Bristol Hillbilly on Nov 25, 2011 19:00:34 GMT -5
That was my thinking mac. The reason I say that is several years ago I measured my bin for year end inventory and didnt take into account for test weight. Since I was taking ldp on these bushels I shorted myself. I guess that is what Jabber was talking about.
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Post by natty on Nov 28, 2011 20:56:16 GMT -5
A bushel is a measure of volume. TW is how much that volume weighs. Higher TW usually means larger seed meaning it takes less seed to fill the volume of a bushel. So if you have 1000 kernels of 50 TW corn and a 1000 of 60 the 60 would more than likely be more bushels, so yes if you are measuring your yield in bu/ac it would. mac,I'm not trying to be a know it all but a bushel is 56lbs. ,which is a measure of weight ,not volume.And in my experience larger kernels results in lower test weight than smaller kernels.The container used to measure test weight has a finite amount of space and larger kernels lay more disorganized than smaller kernels,thus more air space between them causing lower test weight for that particular sample. Another way to understand the difference is if you take a dump truck to the quarry for a load of rock.If you get 1"clean the load will be down in the truck out of site but order 2" and the same weight will be visible out the top.The larger mass will take up more space than the smaller mass. Bottom line,You are paid on 56#/bu. no matter what the test weight is.The only concern is when you fall below 55# due to quality issues where discounts are applied.JMHO |
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Post by mac on Nov 30, 2011 22:07:29 GMT -5
A bushel is an imperial and U.S. customary unit of dry volume, equivalent in each of these systems to 4 pecks or 8 gallons. It is used for volumes of dry commodities (not liquids), most often in agriculture. It is abbreviated as bsh. or bu. In modern usage, the dry volume is usually only nominal, with bushels referring to standard weights instead.
They just pay on on standard weights of an average bushel. If you weigh 1 million bushels the average weight or corn would be 56 lbs so they just set that as standard. As someone said above you get paid by weight not volume, but a bushel is volume. They shouldn't even call them bushels because they don't pay on a true bushel.
Ex. if you your TW is 60lbs/bu. and they pay you based on the standard 56 you actually turned your 1 bushel into 1.07 bu. So, you made more yield according to that.
You could be right bigger seed doesn't necessarily mean more TW it has a lot more factors density, moisture, but usually bigger seed with weigh more in a set volume.
If you are really measuring your yield in volume or true bushels and not lbs/acres in most cases higher TW will be more volume.
If that makes any sense.
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