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Post by Roy@ranch on Sept 6, 2011 21:18:09 GMT -5
What do any of you use? I have been using over edge, but from my travels it seems I am in the vast minority.
Roy
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Post by ses on Sept 6, 2011 21:32:33 GMT -5
We use over edge. Last we got there was hardly any price difference, maybe even cheaper for the JD stuff.
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Post by acfarmer on Sept 6, 2011 21:34:15 GMT -5
I use plain old edge wrap but I dont think I can use over the edge with my baler. I wish now I would have went that direction. A few in my area use it and it makes a cleaner looking bale and nothing blows off them when transporting down the road.
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Post by Angus in NCMO® on Sept 6, 2011 21:39:28 GMT -5
100% over the edge 'here'.
twine costs too much if you put 'enough' on to make a decent looking bale -- especially when considering the added time and fuel associated with twine -- not to mention the shattered leaves on the ground while twining a bale.
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Post by wctyilfarmer on Sept 6, 2011 22:11:44 GMT -5
if the bales will be in the dry edge wrap is good JMO, if the bale will be stacked outside it creates a place for water to stand on the inside of the bale, again JMO. so we don't over the edge with jd568 all that is needed is a spacer on each side of wrap roll.
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Post by bcreech on Sept 7, 2011 5:47:28 GMT -5
I have ran both can't really tell a difference between the 2 i run edge to edge most of the time anymore except for saturday when I thought I had another roll and didn't the last 100 or so bales I had to do with twine and now I know why I use net all the time seemed like it took forever to tie a bale
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Post by wctyilfarmer on Sept 7, 2011 7:05:23 GMT -5
the time saved is worth the additional cost over twine. and it is as close to being in the shed as you can get without being in one.
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Post by wctyilfarmer on Sept 7, 2011 7:08:04 GMT -5
We use over edge. Last we got there was hardly any price difference, maybe even cheaper for the JD stuff. that j d stuff is to high.
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Post by wctyilfarmer on Sept 7, 2011 7:19:50 GMT -5
need this on the smiley list. Attachments:
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Post by Roy@ranch on Sept 7, 2011 7:37:06 GMT -5
Well I had asked one of my neighbors and they claim the edge to edge is easier to come off, and you get more sq foot per roll, is why he uses it. Mine all get stored outside, as far as twine, it feels like it takes an eternity to string it. But I always twine some, due to the fact if it ices on it the net is a double bitch to get off.
Roy
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Post by Dave-ECIA on Sept 7, 2011 8:51:51 GMT -5
We've used both here and settled back on edge to edge. Cover edge is a little harder to take off the way we do it. We feed out of cradle type feeders and grab the end of the wrap, then pull it off by kinda unwinding it off the end of the bale. Coveredge catches on the back side and we end up cutting it off.
Also, one of my hay buyers mentioned to me that if you feed in a ring, the bottom edge gets caught under the bale.
We store outside and haul by truck, don't have any trouble with the edge to edge. I will say, cover edge makes a nicer looking package, maybe side by side a buyer will pick the better looking package???
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Post by bcreech on Sept 7, 2011 11:42:41 GMT -5
the time saved is worth the additional cost over twine. and it is as close to being in the shed as you can get without being in one. MU done a study of net versus twine and if you put twine no farther apart than 4"s it had the same results as putting on 2 layers of net on hay that had been sitting outside in the same elements for 1yr I always put 18-22 wraps of twine on a bale and I put on 2.5 wraps of net it just seems to hold better I agree the cost difference in net vs twine more than pays for itself in the time,fuel and wear savings over the lifetime of a baler plus some baler manufacturer said that the litttle pile of hay left under the baler when using twine would result in the loss of 1 bale for every 100 or 150 bales baled I can't remeber exactly
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Post by Jefe™© on Sept 7, 2011 23:06:54 GMT -5
Well I had asked one of my neighbors and they claim the edge to edge is easier to come off, and you get more sq foot per roll, is why he uses it. Mine all get stored outside, as far as twine, it feels like it takes an eternity to string it. But I always twine some, due to the fact if it ices on it the net is a double bitch to get off. Roy John Deere cover edge is 67" wide. The net that we use is 67" wide but it says on the plastic that it is a side to side. It doesn't fold over the edge like the JD net but half ass does and it sure as hell is a lot easier to take off. The JD net seems like it is stickier (doesn't unroll off the bale as easy). I just can't figure out why people like twine over net when there is ice on the bale. When we have a net bale on the loader and a twine on the back, the guy taking the net off is always done first.
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Post by swmnhay on Sept 13, 2011 19:24:36 GMT -5
I use the 64" it is easier to take off then the 67"The 67" snags under the bale if you flip it up and try unrolling the net off.
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Post by Roy@ranch on Sept 14, 2011 10:43:39 GMT -5
Jefe, my twine bales are tied with sisal, so I just feed "as is". So that makes feeding a lot quicker, ice on plastic or net is a double bitch.
Roy
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