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Post by peelergtfb on Aug 8, 2011 19:17:27 GMT -5
I can't imagine farming would be much fun if I had the security of Insurance.
I think everyone should have the thrill of worrying a crop out of the ground.
And from there move into worrying about the low ground drowning out with a 4 inch rain.
Then of course the never ending hot dry summer.
Of course all the other little things like weeds and bugs taking away Some of the previously worried yield potential.
Seems to me farming wouldn't be any fun if you don't have to worry
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Post by acfarmer on Aug 8, 2011 21:01:03 GMT -5
I see you are from Illinois, I will trade you farms and you can come to missouri and see what its all about.
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Post by eddiedry on Aug 8, 2011 22:12:31 GMT -5
I didn't kmow that cats farmed.
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Post by lafarmer345 on Aug 9, 2011 9:27:07 GMT -5
Well, talking about crop insurance, I got kicked in the nuts this morning by my agent.
Last year I was 100% irrigated on my corn, therefore I chose Enterprise Units. I THOUGHT...I changed that this year as I planted some dryland corn. Well, the agent says I didn't change the options. I have some irrigated corn that will go 200+. I am harvesting a dryland field right now that out of 100 acres, half is complete, and it is ALMOST a truckload. I am screwed. To the wall screwed.
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Aug 9, 2011 10:26:36 GMT -5
LA; hope it is a really BIG truck.
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Aug 9, 2011 10:29:22 GMT -5
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Post by lafarmer345 on Aug 9, 2011 11:47:06 GMT -5
30 bu per acre. Tops.
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Post by eci on Aug 9, 2011 14:56:13 GMT -5
Great post peller ! I with you on that one 100 percent , you guy's need to grow a pair ! why pay out all that money to what ?? just get screwd like my good friend La 345 ! Guess me and peeler are the only ones on here that has any , Balls that is LOL
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Post by pldairy on Aug 9, 2011 15:02:19 GMT -5
Great post peller ! I with you on that one 100 percent , you guy's need to grow a pair ! why pay out all that money to what ?? just get screwd like my good friend La 345 ! Guess me and peeler are the only ones on here that has any , Balls that is LOL well ken ,just try and farm some of our sand,you will be a beliver
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Post by eci on Aug 9, 2011 15:20:14 GMT -5
Oh Bull crap Pl I'll put my gravel against that sand any day LMAO
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Aug 9, 2011 18:22:39 GMT -5
You guys are all Prima Donna's. Come on down here in South Podunk Country and try to survive on floods and droughts (all in the same year) on these 'ol Wabash bottoms ...kind of sorts the men from the boys real quick. I have even survived quite a few years without crop insurance but it has been a salvation the last few years since I reinstated it.
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Post by glowplug on Aug 9, 2011 18:47:59 GMT -5
Hmmmm, some of you would never survive farming the Frozen Tundra up north of the Cheddar Curtain.
What we do is use the money we would have wasted on crop insurance and invest in beer, cheese, bratwurst, another deer rifle, pistol, etc. Reduces our worries and saves the aggrivation of fighting with an insurance adjuster. And as a bonus, the recycler is paying 72 cents a lb. for empty beer cans. Much more dependable payback than crop insurance.
Glowplug
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Post by MoJeeper™ on Aug 9, 2011 20:12:15 GMT -5
LOL!! Guys from the "I" states saying nobody needs ins...
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Post by Hobbyfarmer on Aug 9, 2011 21:11:38 GMT -5
MOj; I never said nobody NEEDS crop ins. Kept me in beer money. I do think if crop insurance is changed back to the old ways or eliminated that there will no be a surplus of feed grains anymore as all the marginal acres will cease to be continusly farmed as they are now because of the "we can make money on it even at the insurance rate". The western 25% of the midwest will go back to some of the old ways and only plant every other year on average and all the thin hills in Southern Iowa And Mo that have been farmed almost to death will get to go back to hay/pasture with only an occasional crop to reseed and renew the grass/hay.
If/when the crop insurance thing is changed or done away with the CRP thing also needs to be done away with. Some ground in the western states will be in for 35+ years when the current contracts expire in 15 years. That is a farming career for most folks. Some areas have had close to 40% taken out of any posibility of a young farmer/rancher getting started because of the Govt's taking it out of meaningfull production for food or fiber. The distortions this has caused is as bad as the distortions the current Crop Insurance programs, rules, and policies are causing.
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Post by acfarmer on Aug 11, 2011 9:20:33 GMT -5
MOj; I never said nobody NEEDS crop ins. Kept me in beer money. I do think if crop insurance is changed back to the old ways or eliminated that there will no be a surplus of feed grains anymore as all the marginal acres will cease to be continusly farmed as they are now because of the "we can make money on it even at the insurance rate". The western 25% of the midwest will go back to some of the old ways and only plant every other year on average and all the thin hills in Southern Iowa And Mo that have been farmed almost to death will get to go back to hay/pasture with only an occasional crop to reseed and renew the grass/hay. If/when the crop insurance thing is changed or done away with the CRP thing also needs to be done away with. Some ground in the western states will be in for 35+ years when the current contracts expire in 15 years. That is a farming career for most folks. Some areas have had close to 40% taken out of any posibility of a young farmer/rancher getting started because of the Govt's taking it out of meaningfull production for food or fiber. The distortions this has caused is as bad as the distortions the current Crop Insurance programs, rules, and policies are causing. Your mostly right but forgot one thing. Doing away with crop insurance will also eliminate the large paid cash rents and probably a few operators also when the first disaster comes along.
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