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Post by MarlandS on Oct 31, 2011 23:47:50 GMT -5
Was talking with a tile contractor buddy of mine who was lamenting about when the frost got too deep for his wheel machine to tile ending his season and he has a lot to try to get through .
My thought was taking an older 3 pt ripper and taking all but the center ripper shank off then taking that and ripping where the tile line is to go and busting the sometimes 1 ft of frost up .
Anyone ever heard of such insanity ?
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Post by pldairy on Nov 1, 2011 19:12:25 GMT -5
Was talking with a tile contractor buddy of mine who was lamenting about when the frost got too deep for his wheel machine to tile ending his season and he has a lot to try to get through . My thought was taking an older 3 pt ripper and taking all but the center ripper shank off then taking that and ripping where the tile line is to go and busting the sometimes 1 ft of frost up . Anyone ever heard of such insanity ? it will work, seen oil guys doing that to put in a pipeline, they were putting it in with a wheele machine |
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Post by Angus in NCMO® on Nov 1, 2011 19:48:08 GMT -5
1 foot of frost will probably equate to some really big chunks to drive over, might cause a few headaches if the tile grade is extremely critical -- like in flat ground.
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Post by MarlandS on Nov 1, 2011 20:46:49 GMT -5
The thought is, with one shank , it'll just lift and split the center without pushing the slabs very far at all, basically the width of the shank . then when the digging wheel hits them, they'll flop out then .
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Post by Angus in NCMO® on Nov 1, 2011 21:05:21 GMT -5
I'm guessing a lot will depend on the moisture and temperature. But I'm just GUESSING.
A single ripper 'might' do the exact thing you're wanting.
From experiences several years ago running a dozer, frost chunks don't always break like you want them to.
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Post by MarlandS on Nov 1, 2011 21:09:21 GMT -5
Well, *usually* when the wheel is busting frost , the slabs aren't overly huge and unless Ma Nature really gets it in gear with the rain, there won't be much moisture a foot down so it might be a moot point this year anyway .
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Post by Angus in NCMO® on Nov 1, 2011 21:14:06 GMT -5
A big 10-4 on the lack of moisture 'here' this fall as well.
I should prolly qualify my 'experience with frost' statement. We don't have overly abundant topsoil 'here', so your mileage might vary -- greatly.
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Post by Jefe™© on Nov 1, 2011 21:18:34 GMT -5
My friend and I must be insane because we tried this already. Got the hole dug with the backhoe so thought it should work. I don't think it even went 2 inches. Couldn't get any traction on frozen ground and even trying to ram it in, it was like concrete. From my experience that winter, it's better to park it than it is to fix broke down equipment in the freezing cold.  |
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Post by MarlandS on Nov 1, 2011 21:23:51 GMT -5
Yeah Angus, it's black for usually 3 feet if not more here.
Thanks for bursting my bubble Jefe .
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Post by Dave-ECIA on Nov 3, 2011 18:49:53 GMT -5
We used to have (may still, not sure if it's in the weeds) a single leg, pull-type ripper that may be just what you are thinking about.
I do know that it will go through some frost, but like Jefe said, frost of any real thickness will stop you in your tracks.
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Post by pointrow on Nov 8, 2011 19:48:21 GMT -5
They make frost bits for wheel machines but by the time I need them I'm ready to quit for the season.
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Post by MarlandS on Nov 8, 2011 20:47:16 GMT -5
We used to have (may still, not sure if it's in the weeds) a single leg, pull-type ripper that may be just what you are thinking about. Got pics and a price ? |
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Post by MarlandS on Nov 8, 2011 20:50:47 GMT -5
They make frost bits for wheel machines but by the time I need them I'm ready to quit for the season. Hey Pointrow, you having trouble with too dry up that way ? My buddy had to throw on new face cutters so he put on some shovel nose and some regular ones with digger bits welded on . Finally getting some moisture in the ground just not deep enough yet . |
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Post by Dave-ECIA on Nov 10, 2011 11:23:38 GMT -5
We used to have (may still, not sure if it's in the weeds) a single leg, pull-type ripper that may be just what you are thinking about. Got pics and a price ? I looked, we don't have it any more. I wanna say it was an Oliver and had a semi-circular shank with a narrow point. It didn't work well as a ripper as it created a slot, not lift. For what you are wanting to do, it might have worked if it was strong enough to get through frost. |
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Post by pointrow on Nov 10, 2011 20:13:09 GMT -5
They make frost bits for wheel machines but by the time I need them I'm ready to quit for the season. Hey Pointrow, you having trouble with too dry up that way ? My buddy had to throw on new face cutters so he put on some shovel nose and some regular ones with digger bits welded on . Finally getting some moisture in the ground just not deep enough yet . Yep. Had to put on new corner cutters because the boot would bind so bad I couldn't get it out of the ground. I think that problem is solved with 3+" of rain. |
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